Frankfurt School Project
- Tobias, what was your main motivation for founding wait, what. (besides your real estate track record and the proven concept)?
- What experience did you gain during your real estate career?
- Are Tobias Temmen, Christian Feghali & Omar Fathallah the only employees currently?
- Can we contact you outside the FAQ sessions?
- Task-related questions
- Confirmation: The case study task emphasizes not modeling fund returns and focusing on an exemplary project. Nevertheless, the deliverable “Client Business Case” requires modeling fund returns (incl. management fees, real estate management costs, projection of future growth, number of properties, etc.) to some extent.
- Confirmation: the scope of the project is to develop a framework for selection criteria of locations and properties, to develop an idea of a methodological implementation, and to demonstrate it for a singular project
- Beyond that, the PIF foresees other future projects and scaling/adapting the strategy.
- Placemaking-related questions
- Why do you believe Placemaking is less common in Europe than in the US, where we can see a variety of providers (Jamestown, JBG Smith, etc.)?
- How would you assess the risk of Placemaking investments given …
- Risk increasing factors: business model uncertainty in Europe, initially high CapEx, initially uncertain income
- Risk decreasing factors: science-proven approach, longer investment horizon, ultimately stable as well as longer income
- Do you identify BID (business improvement districts) as Placemaking? Primera
- What is your approach to the conflict of investing in already developed areas to build on a basic infrastructure while keeping enough potential for further improvements?
- Entertainment, art, and cultural choices typically signify developed areas. How would you like to improve the existing options? Is the lack or abundance a reason for you to invest?
- Do you already have a set of fixed or heavily weighted selection criteria for the location strategy?
- Do you already have a set of fixed or heavily weighted Placemaking transformation measures for value creation?
- Is wait, what. already examining potential targets?
- If yes, which methodologies (e.g. network, data collection, etc.) and criteria (location and property) were used? Yes, please check https://wait-what.co/pif and https://wait-what.co/pif/acquisition-profile
- To what extent should we use the formula “I = (C + D + A) × S × E” to create value (profits) in our methodology?
- Financing & investors
- Did any LP express its interest in deploying capital (insurances, pension funds, sovereign funds, foundations, fund of funds PEs, family offices, etc.)?
- If yes, what do current agreements foresee regarding hurdle rate, management fees, carried interest, etc.?
- Are you currently engaged in state subsidies or other support discussions (e.g. access to data, properties, tax cuts, etc.) with federal or local authorities due to the social returns created by Placemaking?
- On which criteria was the targeted equity ticket of €50m to €250m selected?
- What is the targeted total fund size?
- Are there specifically targeted returns and investment horizons?
- Do you expect the usual real estate leverage ratios?
- Are there already committed financing agreements?
- What is your general risk appetite like? Is your focus on many independent Placemaking objects or do you prefer singular key investments?
- Could you imagine acting as a debt provider for other (small) investors in the same place to attract businesses?
- Operations
- If no, what kind of partnership security do you target?
- Status Quo
- The case already implies some status quo points, such as changing urban dynamics, economic uncertainties, etc., but you never mention housing shortages anywhere. Is this a point you want to address/improve? Is it a secondary concern, does it play a central role or do you consider improving underutilized areas as USP of your strategy?
- Who have you identified as a direct competitor?
- Ideal future-related questions
- How can retail investors and tenants be attracted and engaged? (What does that look like?)
- Is the 1,000,000 sqm of space and enabling of 10,000 jobs a definitive fact?
- Are there other specific non-financial targets?
- Where would you like to see the fund in a few years? Is there a continued investment and development approach or would you like to invest the majority at once?
- How do you define "successful placemaking"? Is it primarily about economic return, social impact, ESG compliance - or all at the same time?
- Are there already pilot projects or favorite locations? That would help us with the financial model.
- How free are we to choose the example project for the financial model? Do we have to have to take a real location or can we build a theoretical "model project"?
- Will the fund focus more on new construction projects or conversions? This has a massively on our numerical model.
- How strong should the focus be on ESG and community effects - also quantitatively? Or is that enough at storytelling level?
- Are there any financial restrictions in the project with regard to the initial investment amount?
- Is there essential geospatial data that is of particular importance for your projects?
- What role does social or cultural impact play for you? Do you want to Promote education? Financial participation? Digital inclusion?
- Which target groups are currently of particular strategic relevance for WaitWhat - both in the existing portfolio and in the desired further development
- How would you describe the current status of your brand loyalty among younger target groups (e.g. Gen Z, young professionals)?
- do you prefer physical, digital, or hybrid formats for a potential project (e.g., pop-ups)? project (e.g. pop-up experience, interactive education platform, cooperation with creative actors)?
- Which KPIs or qualitative success factors would be decisive for the success of such a project—reach, engagement, trust, conversion, media response, conversion, media resonance?
- What are the most essential criteria for site evaluation (e.g., sustainability, infrastructure, economic development)? Are there already defined priorities for the placemaking strategy (e.g., housing, commercial spaces, culture)?
- Which stakeholders should be involved in the development process (e.g., municipalities, private investors, NGOs)?
- What is the investment horizon? Exit strategies? After how many years should the areas be resold? Or how does the project generate returns (only through rent)?
- What are the return expectations for the individual projects? Only the benchmark of traditional real estate projects, or is there a desired threshold?
- Are there preferences for existing financing models, or should new ones be developed?
- Are there any risks that should be especially considered in the model?
- What role does digital infrastructure play in site development and the long-term attractiveness of a project?
- How important is the scalability of the placemaking approach? Should the concept primarily be developed for individual pilot projects or directly as a transferable model for various cities?
- What is the status quo regarding site selection, financial playbook, and stakeholder involvement?
- Fund size and number of projects What is the target volume per fund, and how many projects are envisioned within each fund? This helps us determine the average budget per project and define a realistic scope for sourcing opportunities.
- Development intensity and approach: Do you plan to acquire sites that are already partially developed with existing infrastructure, or are you targeting assets that require significant redevelopment and transformation? This affects the capital allocation and timeline assumptions in our strategy.
- Exclusion criteria for site selection: Are there specific no-gos when it comes to location characteristics, such as minimum city size, land ownership structure, zoning complexity, or infrastructure gaps? Clarifying this helps us design a more targeted and efficient geospatial screening process.
- Preferred project types and flexibility: Are you strictly focused on mixed-use urban developments, or would single-use projects (such as residential-only or innovation hubs) also fit the placemaking strategy?Understanding this helps define the typology of projects we should include in our location recommendations. (please make a quick research on successful placemaking projects)
- Long-term holding vs. project-level exits: We understand that the fund is committed to long-term value creation. Still, are there scenarios where a partial or full exit from individual projects might be considered?
- If so, what timeframes or conditions would typically trigger such a decision? This would help us shape our financial model's realistic valuation and terminal value assumptions.
- Evidence for outsized returns: You emphasize outsized returns driven by a unique strategy focused on exponential growth. Could you elaborate on what backs this assumption?
I worked in finance, consulting, and financial services, always 'surprising' clients/investors with unorthodox approaches and outcomes.
My company's thesis is 'Openness → Observation → Opportunity → Outsized Returns'
My career was mainly in banking, asset, and investment management. I learned how to identify, evaluate, structure, and execute investment ideas.
Yes - however, we work in 'virtual teams', I am currently orchestrating 20+ people.
Yes, I usually reply within 24 hours via email.
Yes, please only model the project - fund costs are calculated as % of AUM/assets under management.
Yes
No, the fund is the only investment vehicle pursuing the strategy. However, we are asked to recreate a similar fund in the US
Placemaking is very common in Europe, especially given Jan Gehl's work. Most modern cities, such as Copenhagen, Amsterdam, London, and Paris, deploy placemaking interventions. Germany is a laggard in innovation, especially in real estate.
Macro risks in real estate cannot be mitigated; however, sub-strategies like Placemaking (mixed-use, financially sustainable places) outperform other mono-line/mono-risk strategies.
See above: Openness → Observation → Opportunity → Outsized Returns
Placemaking works, i.e., creating better, most financially stable risk-return profiles.
We partner with BID firms like
We budget for upcoming renovations and adjustments.
Yes, as we have the playbook and expertise to activate and create a vibrant area, We will not invest in districts where cultural activities already occur.
Yes, please check https://wait-what.co/pif and https://wait-what.co/pif/acquisition-profile
Work in progress - we leverage experience from our advisors at https://placemaking-europe.eu/ and https://www.placemakingx.org/
Please elaborate on your questions
Yes
Unable to disclose, as confidential information - and not relevant to the project
No
Market insights on comparable transactions for larger district development projects
The first fund target size is 250m EUR plus 250m EUR leverage.
5-8% cash on cash yield, 10-15% IRR through remortgaging
The investment horizon is long-term, a minimum of 10 years, ideally 30 years.
The exit strategy is 'remortgaging', i.e., taking out debt against realized value creation.
Yes, 50-60% on project level
Yes
The fund aims to build a portfolio of placemaking projects, all connected via the same strategy.
PIF can only invest in real estate. We evaluate smaller 'side funds', investing in businesses.
Confirmation: wait, what. aims to be vertically integrated and to develop demanded capabilities (designers, architects, urban planners, landscape architects and retail experts) on an in-house basis to not rely on outsourcing?
wait, what. is the General Partner & Investment Manager - The PIF Team will be vertically integrated and in-house
Our investment strategy is mixed-use investments, i.e., including residential real estate.
Improving underutilized areas is the USP of our strategy.
Some developers integrate placemaking - however only during development, not in asset management.
We found no dedicated Placemaking fund.
No yet. In the future, we look into retail fund shares (ELTIFs)
No, merely an aspiration
We aim to address SDG 7, 9, 11, 12 and 13
Fund 1 is fully invested, and Fund 2 1b EUR is beginning to invest. All funds are open-ended
All at the same time: Social impact only lasts with sustainable financial resources
We have projects in development (Berlin, Hamburg, et al), and our favorite destinations are European urban/metropolitan areas.
Please aim for a mixed-use financial model, with dedicated Placemaking considerations/revenues/costs
Please feel free to chose between a theoretical model project or Hamburg Herrlichkeit, a retrofit case in Hamburg downtown
In both cases, please use validated assumptions for costs (acquisition, retrofit/development, placemaking efforts)
We aim for 50:50 development vs retrofits - in financial modeling, costs are merely line items that can be left empty if not applicable.
Please keep in mind we deploy capital from an open-end fund, i.e., we do not aim to exit a project but perpetually develop it
We aim for SFDR Art 8 or 9 fund, i.e., sustainability is front and center of our strategy, regulatory enforced.
No, however, aim for financially sustainable returns with an above-market risk-return profile.
Yes, GIS data covering 1) current space utilization, 2) allowed space utilization, 3) surrounding amenities, and 4) 'missing' amenities is crucial.
Example: Current use (1) is an office, but building permit (2) allows for mixed-use. However, the site is only surrounded (3) by parking lots and no (4) parks, outdoor playgrounds, etc.
Cultural impact scores high in our valuation, as 'Place Identity' is key to sound financial stability. Education, participation et al. are valid impact parameters.
Please clarify 'target group' - we develop mixed-use real estate, i.e., targeting residents as well as offices, shops, commercial users
We launched in Q4 2024, our brand equity is 0
All of the above, if the impact exceeds the costs
As a real estate case, our core metrics focus on net operating income, revenue per sqm, profit per sqm, tenant satisfactory.
Reach, engagement et al. from our social media presence impact marketing spend and customer acquisition costs.
Most important criterion is "economic development potential."
Assume no defined strategy - however, great places require mixed-use strategies.
Municipalities, citizens (neighbors and future tenants/users) - we are the sole investor. No NGOs
The investment horizon is long-term, minimum 10 years, ideally 30 years.
The exit strategy is 'remortgaging', i.e., taking out debt against realized value creation.
No exit through sale is planned.
The investment profile is to create a long-term, sustainable, mid-high investment
5-8% cash on cash yield, 10-15% IRR through remortgaging
Please focus on existing models, tweak and augment them where you see fit.
Please anticipate typical real estate retrofit/development risks as well as asset management/placemaking risks.
If evaluated and used correctly, Tech adds to value creation, e.g., tenant satisfaction, shorter planning duration, etc.
Wrongly selected tech, however leads to stranded assets - think smart home apps nobody can use
Scalability is highly relevant, as we aim to invest in all major urban regions across Europe.
Please do not consider different tax regimes.
We are in due diligence for five sites in Europe; we developed a preliminary financial model, created a risk charter, and began stakeholder involvements at potential project sites - additionally, we formed an advisory board including Fred and Ethan Kent, as well as Hans Karssenberg and members of Gehl (feel free to look them up for placemaking inspiration)
250m EUR, 3-5 Projects - plus 50% leverage, i.e. 500m in total assets
Primarily retrofits, i.e., existing buildings for transformation. Developments are opportunistic
Contaminated areas, overly complex ownership structures, missing access to general infrastructure.
However, given our focus on top urban/metropolitan areas in Europe, please assume Top 7 locations Germany - we currently have opportunities in Berlin, Hamburg and Munich
Mixed-use urban development, no single-use projects
Exit strategy is "remortgaging", i.e.; initial investors are paid back via a senior loan increase.
Remortgaging is 5+ years are retrofit/development (see Basel III, IPRE requirements), assume remortgaging after 10 years.
Better places -> Stable rent, lower marketing/brokerage, lower churn/turnover -> higher NOI/profit per sqm + higher valuation factors